[Stoves] [Gasification] Find truth about Re: Turbo-Cocina, turbo-cooker Wins Prize for Clean Burning

[Tom Miles]

Paul and all,

Let's keep the cooking on the stoves list and not copy everything to the
gasification list. Several people have commented to me offline that stoves
topics just confuse the gasification discussion even though strictly
speaking they are often related. 

Thanks,

Tom
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: gasification-bounces at listserv.repp.org [mailto:gasification-
> bounces at listserv.repp.org] On Behalf Of Paul S. Anderson
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 10:35 AM
> To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves; Bruno M.
> Cc: GASIFICATION - Listserve
> Subject: [Gasification] Find truth about Re: [Stoves] Turbo-Cocina,
> turbo-cooker Wins Prize for Clean Burning
> 
> Dear Stovers and Gas-L readers,
> 
> We recently received info including the following:  (snipped)
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > www.treehugger.com/files/2007/12/turbo-cooker.php
> >
> > Turbo-cooker Wins Prize for Clean Burning
> >
> > by Christine Lepisto, Berlin on 12. 2.07
> >
> > Nunez has won an environmental prize from the UN, funding from the
> > Fondo Iniciativa para las Americas El Salvador (FIAES) and has
> > received a US patent for his invention. According to Nunez, in an
> > interview in the "El Salvador" :
> > <www.elsalvador.com/noticias/2002/10/13/nacional/nacio1.html>
> > (Spanish), the secret to his cooker is that the combustion occurs at
> > a much lower temperature than in a normal, open fire. In theory, this
> > concept could apply to any combustibles, including natural gas or
> > propane for example.
> 
> I read the Spanish interview.  Journalism without much science.  No
> real
> explanation (except the above statement about lower temperature
> combustion). Nunez claims   96% reduction of fuel compared with
> traditional stoves.     When
> asked if he is a genius, he admits that he is.
> 
> Lack of clarity or explanations raise doubts about how this won a UN
> prize and
> funding and patent.
> 
> I was reading and looking for clues about gasification (not mentioned
> directly).
> I doubt that it is TLUD pyrolytic gasification (which cannot reach 96%
> fuel
> reduction as far as I can tell.)  Tom Reed also used the name "Turbo"
> stove
> years ago, but no evidence of links there.
> 
> He states at least two years (maybe more) work on this, lost his
> marriage and
> money.  Several names of people (none that I recognized).  And yet we
> have not
> heard of him before this (or does some one know him or his work?).
> 
> I am in India with very limited computer access.  If someone else would
> please
> track down this technology, please post for me and others to read.
> 
> If real, then we can all get behind him and assist.  If not real, he is
> spoiling
> the opportunities for real work to be recognized and funded.  Another
> perpetual
> motion machine (or a 96% fuel reduction device) that does not work is
> bad news
> for all of us.
> 
> Paul
> 
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