[Stoves] Hydrogen gas from radio waves and salt water ?

[Salih Hamadto]

Dear all,
What if can get the RF from a cheap or even 'free' source? e.g. solar?

Dr Salih Hamadto
Director, Solar Energy Enterprises Co> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:35:11 -0400> From: nfoidl at desa.com.bo> To: stoves at listserv.repp.org> Subject: Re: [Stoves] Hydrogen gas from radio waves and salt water ?> > Dear Richard!> > That's an other of thousands of snake oil peddler projects which pop up> every year. You use high cost energy ( electricity) and produce low cost> energy ( H2) for burning. To produce the electricity the efficiency in> average is around 40% and then to produce the H2 the efficiency is again> some maybe 70 %, but to transfer this H2 into something transportable again> you have an efficiency loss until the end user. So overall efficiency> normally are below the 10% range. Where those H2 by electricity or H2 and Co> by electricity transformers work is when you can by at night time> electricity at 10 % of its market value and store the H2 and CO to daytime> where you reconvert the gas into electricity and sell the produced> electricity at a premium price for the peak hours. You can look up similar> "inventions" under Browns gas, water gas etc.Still as hard as inventors try> to proof contrary there is no perpetuum mobile not the first order neither> the second. To show a " Scientist with a the astonishing discovery that H2> burns with a hot flame" makes this neat trick not the world saving event> they paint it, it only shows that some reporters and some "Scientists" think> that everybody out there is as dumb as they are.> Best regards Nikolaus> > > On 12/13/07 9:03 PM, "Richard Stanley" <rstanley at legacyfound.org> wrote:> > > Dear group members,> > > > Has anybody seen this UTUBE video of a recent and professionally> > replicated experiment: Its a about hitting salt water, either man-> > made or natural, with a radio frequency (one pundit claims the> > frequency is about 14 khz) to literally ignite the salt water with a> > clean hydrogen flame--no electrolysis required.> > > > Do not have the numbers for thruput volumes, much less energy balance> > assessments but I thought it was so interesting as to pass it on to> > you for your comments, insights...Before corporate oil burys it.> > > > > > Richard Stanley,> > Legacy Foundation> > www.legacyfound.org> > > > http://technorati.com/videos/youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dh6vSxR6UKFM> > > > _______________________________________________> > Stoves mailing list> > Stoves at listserv.repp.org> > http://listserv.repp.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_listserv.repp.org> > http://stoves.bioenergylists.org> > http://info.bioenergylists.org> > > > _______________________________________________> Stoves mailing list> Stoves at listserv.repp.org> http://listserv.repp.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_listserv.repp.org> http://stoves.bioenergylists.org> http://info.bioenergylists.org
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