[Stoves] Lanterns as stoves

Sat Feb 3 16:58:34 CST 2007

To All,

The idea has many merits but personally I found some drawbacks too..If it
was not atempted
100 years ago as Paul Anderson notes,  it certainly was 25 years  Here in
the Marshalls Islands the idea was at tried as far back as the 1970's. The
lantern,  at the time a kerosene Austromax,  was place on a shelf
with a tin backing and insulation for safety, and  then re-inforced bracket
placed above it. I did not find it a
practical cooking application however everthing was in deep shadow as the
light was in the "wrong" position. Also to cook one was awfully close to a
very strong heat . It was very convenient as a water heater. A very large
teapot was
keep on the rack and the lantern this provided a good supply of hot water
for
nearly anything---instant ramen  tea coffee were ready in no time and
tempered warm water after a night time fish trip was a real pleasure.The
important thing,
anything that recycles and makes good use of waste heat is a good concept
anyway.

Michael N Trevor
Enemonet

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "nari phaltan" <nariphaltan at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of biomass cooking stoves" <stoves at listserv.repp.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Stoves] Stoves Digest, Vol 8, Issue 4

> Dear Chris,
>
> We made the Noorie kerosene lamp in 1990 when Britelyt was not even in the
> picture. We also believe we were the first one to promote the use of
lantern
> as a cooking device. In science and technology and commerce progress takes
> place incrementally when improvements are made based upon the existing
> models. However proper credit needs to be given to the originator of the
> concept.
>
> Unfortunately our Noorie ethanol lantern work remained behind because of
the
> materials problems. Besides we got sidetracked in developing the low
ethanol
> concentration stove which is now ready for commercial exploitation.
> http://nariphaltan.virtualave.net/ethstove.pdf.
>
> Recently we have taken up the work of running a newly designed lantern to
> run on 50%(w/w) ethanol-water mixture and we are happy to inform you that
it
> is doing very well in the trial runs. This way we have been able to
produce
> both cooking and lighting device to run on the same fuel. Besides this
fuel
> can easily be distilled locally with very little energy and without too
much
> sophisticated machinery. In fact we had developed a very simple solar
still
> in 1984 to distill this ethanol from 7%(w/w) fermented mash. The still
> produced 40-60%(w/w) ethanol depending upon the solar energy.
>
> Best wishes. Anil K Rajvanshi
>
> On 2/3/07, Chris Smith <hotspringfreak at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Speaking of the excellent Britelyt lantern (not to mention their stove
> > which
> > can burn alcohol - as well as biodiesel and other liquid fuels - a true
> > multi-fuel stove) ...
> >
> > ...is there current status info on the availability of the alcohol
Noorie
> > lantern (which has a stove adapter, like the Britelyt)? Or on it's
mantle
> > composition (to keep with thread).  I believe Anil K. Ravjanshi had
> > written
> > that 2007 would be a target date for release, hopefully for export as
> > well.
> > Stats are similar to the Britelyt, though unless I'm mistaken a setup
for
> > operation with alcohol would be required for the Britelyte while it's
just
> >
> > turn-key for the alcohol Noorie.  Light output and fuel consumption
stats
> > are similar.  The Noorie being made in India, may be substantially
cheaper
> > and I believe it functions with lower concentration alcohols, being
> > designed
> > to operate with the user's self-produced ~60% alcohols produced from
> > biomass
> > waste from their own home garden food production efforts.  An integrated
> > sustainable loop.  Comments and/or project update are much appreciated.
> >
> > http://nariphaltan.virtualave.net/lantern.htm
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Chris Smith
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > >
> > > Message: 6
> > > Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 21:51:55 -0600
> > > From: "Paul S. Anderson" <psanders at ilstu.edu>
> > > Subject: Re: [Stoves] FW: MANTLE LAMP TESTS
> > > To: Frans Peeters < peetersfrans at telenet.be>, eddie at britelyt.com
> > > Cc: Harry Stokes - alcohol <hstokes at blazenet.net >,      Stoves
> > >         <stoves at listserv.repp.org>
> > > Message-ID: <20070202215155.8t2ba9aq8880gs84 at webmail2.ilstu.edu >
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> > >
> > > Frans,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the message and for the efforts.
> > >
> > > Last month I met Mr. Eddie Draper who makes the Britelyt mantle
> > > lanterns, and he
> > > has a model that runs on any of the alcohols.  A VERY nice product and
> > > I showed
> > > one at ETHOS.  Sells for about $200 including a cookstove substitute
> > > top.  Visit     www.britelyt.com   for info.
> > >
> > > Britelyt has a stronger mantle than what is common for campstoves.
Any
> > > details
> > > would need to come from Eddie, who is receiving a copy of this
message.
> > >
> > > Eddie:  Thanks.  The alcohol lantern was performed well at ETHOS.  See
> > > photo of
> > > it in the photo section of Tom Miles report at     bioenergylists.org
.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Paul S. Anderson, Ph.D., Geography professor - Emeritus
> > > Telephone:  USA-309-452-7072 (residence and office)
> > > Internet site:
www.ilstu.edu/~psanders<http://www.ilstu.edu/%7Epsanders>
> > > For my gasifier stoves info, go to:
> > > http://bioenergylists.org/contributors#Paul_Anderson
> > >
> > >
> > >
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