[Stoves] Lowering emissions

frank frank at compostlab.com
Wed Jan 3 16:57:03 CST 2007


Dear Kevin and all,

Brilliant? Thanks. It worked ok but we need to add something to the 
water to make it more sticky, or perhaps spray something onto the wood. 
The sand needs to stick more evenly. I moved on to other projects before 
really working this out.

But I now vote for Crispins direction with some sort of size 
measurement. The size info should be done anyways as it will be useful 
info to describe the fuel. So if we can eliminate the sand (or any other 
test) that would be nice.  As much as I love testing - the fewer and 
simpler the better.

Frank




Kevin Chisholm wrote:

> Dear Frank
>
> That is a brilliantly simple way to determine surface area!!
>
> Kevin
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "frank" <frank at compostlab.com>
> To: "Discussion of biomass cooking stoves" <stoves at listserv.repp.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 2:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [Stoves] Lowering emissions
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>
>> Crispin and others,
>>
>> One way I tried was to wet wood with water and coat with #30 sand.
>> Worked somewhat. I calibrated with weight of sand per unit area. Powders
>> did not work.
>> So I do not have a good method. I think it would be a useful measurement
>> if someone can think of a good way to test it.  But think we can work
>> around that with 1) particle size - void space ratio for ball or block
>> shaped particles, 2) diameter of long particles (sticks) - void space
>> ratio etc. The choice of the two methods to pick from could be based on
>> an agreeable length to width ratio value. As you say it gets 
>> complicated!
>>
>> Frank
>>
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>> Crispin Pemberton-Pigott wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Frank
>>>
>>> I have another question you might have some thoughts on.
>>>
>>> How can I measure the surface area of a selection of firewood, 
>>> compared with
>>> its volume?
>>>
>>> Your sand method will find the volume.  An important number is the 
>>> ratio of
>>> area to volume: M^2/M^3.
>>>
>>> Ideas anyone?
>>> Crispin
>>>
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