[Stoves] [Gasification] "ecogas" defined

Tom Miles tmiles at trmiles.com
Sun Jul 15 19:20:53 EDT 2007


Kevin,

The listserv stripped the attachment. Put it on the gasification website or
send it to me and I'll put it up. 

Thanks

Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: stoves-bounces at listserv.repp.org
[mailto:stoves-bounces at listserv.repp.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Chisholm
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 4:04 PM
To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves
Subject: Re: [Stoves] [Gasification] "ecogas" defined

Dear Crispin, Tom, Paul, Ron, and The List

I've been struggling with definitions that are meaningful, sensible, and
that "will get us where we want to go."

I find that when I look at the "trees" rather than looking at the "forest",
it is easy to come up with myopic definitions that will lack meaning or be
confusing when we step back to view the overall context. I think many of our
contradictory views are perhaps because each of is standing a different
distance from the trees.

I have taken the liberty of configuring a "Big Picture Approach" with teh
objective of getting things in perspective.

I think it is important that we be able to distinguish between "Neutral CO2"
that is derived from biomass, and "Fossil CO2" that is derived from fossil
fuels. In the attached preliminary draft of a "Energy, Biomass, Gas and
Nomenclature Flow Sheet" I attempt to lay things out "from start to finish".
There are probably many opportunities for improved clarity, additions, etc.

I would propose that if we first get "the big picture" right, then detailed
definition of process and nomenclature will flow relatively easy.

Hope this is helpful.

Best wishes,

Kevin


Ron Larson wrote:
> Crispin:
> 
>     1.  I think we need to realize that Kevin was NOT favoring 
> "greengas" - and I am inclined to agree.
> 
>     2.   After I jumped in with "cleangas", I had second thoughts like 
> yours.
> 
>     3.  Your suggestion below prompts me to also throw in "pyrogas" - 
> as being somewhat more descriptive than the others  (goes well with 
> pyromaniac also).  Pyrolysis-gas is presumably too long.
> 
> Ron
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Crispin Pemberton-Pigott" <crispinpigott at gmail.com>
> To: "'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves'" 
> <stoves at listserv.repp.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 9:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [Stoves] [Gasification] "ecogas" defined
> 
> 
>> Dear Kevin
>>
>> I prefer the name greengas for biomass gas, but biogas is also 
>> appropriate as a class of gas.  The fact that is it produce wet or 
>> dry shows two classes of device, but they are pretty much derived 
>> from the same ingredients.
>>
>> Perhaps the name should reflect the heat aspect as opposed to the wet 
>> aspect.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Crispin
>>
>>
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