[Stoves] Stoves Digest, Vol 12, Issue 10

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Fuel equivalents (Robert Penn Taylor)
   2. Fwd: making briquettes (Steve Troy)
   3. Closing Breathe Easy Network (Grant Ballard-Tremeer)
   4. Re: Fuel equivalents (Sharon Gordon)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 08:27:12 -0500
From: Robert Penn Taylor <rptaylor at iastate.edu>
Subject: Re: [Stoves] Fuel equivalents
To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves <stoves at listserv.repp.org>
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Hi Sharon,
Here are a few questions to help clarify your request:

1. By "green wood" do you mean wet wood of known moisture content, or do 
you mean freshly-cut wood of unknown moisture content?

2. I assume I know what you mean by charcoal fuel, but what do you mean 
by charcoal debris?

3. What precision do you need for these quantities? (wood->char and 
energy content of different woods)

-Penn Taylor

Sharon Gordon wrote:
> Is there a set of  equations I can use to figure out from a fuel standpoint how much
> green wood = dry wood = charcoal fuel = charcoal debris
> for specific types of wood?
> 
> And where are some good charts for looking at the different amounts of energy available in different varieties of wood?  I can interlibrary loan print resources if there are some good ones available that are not archived on the internet.
> 
> Sharon
> gordonse at one.net
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 11:27:14 -0600
From: Steve Troy <steve at sustainablevillage.com>
Subject: [Stoves] Fwd: making briquettes
To: Richard Stanley:;
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>
>From: "Jane Garratt" <garrattjane at hotmail.com>
>To: info at thesustainablevillage.com
>Subject: making briquettes
>Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 16:21:36 +0100
>
>
>We are shortly to return to Western Kenya where we are helping with micro projects for poverty relief. I am interested in the briquette making for fuel. Can you supply more details?
>many thanks Jane


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 07:31:22 -0700
From: "Grant Ballard-Tremeer" <grant at ecoharmony.com>
Subject: [Stoves] Closing Breathe Easy Network
To: "'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves'"
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Forwarded From the Breathe Easy Network by Tom Miles:

Dear Breathe Easy Network Subscribers,

It has been a long time since we have communicated with you. We are
writing to inform you that the Breathe Easy Network, launched in 2003
has now officially become part of the HEDON Household Energy Network
(www.hedon.info) under the new name of "CleanAirSIG" - this is a HEDON
Special Interest Group (SIG) on Clean Indoor Air in the context of
poverty.

The Breathe Easy Network has run successfully for three years with
support from the Shell Foundation. In these 3 years the network
developed a 220 plus network of members. A lot of knowledge was shared
and we believe that we all benefited from the news provided through
the email newsletters and website.

The Shell Foundation has generously agreed to support the new
CleanAirSIG with some core funds which will enable us to actively
expand the networking activities of the SIG.

The CleanAirSIG will however differ in one important way from the
Breathe Easy Network - the email list will become a discussion list.
Subscribers are encouraged to subscribe to the HEDON Newsletter for
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The good news is that all the Breathe Easy Network subscribers are
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The CleanAirSIG website is here: www.hedon.info/goto.php/CleanAirSIG

We look forward to your active participation in the CleanAirSIG.

With Best Wishes,
Grant Ballard-Tremeer and Karabi Dutta



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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 10:37:57 -0400
From: "Sharon Gordon" <gordonse at one.net>
Subject: Re: [Stoves] Fuel equivalents
To: "Discussion of biomass cooking stoves" <stoves at listserv.repp.org>
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>
> 1. By "green wood" do you mean wet wood of known moisture content, or do
> you mean freshly-cut wood of unknown moisture content?

Freshly cut wood of known or unknown moisture content

>
> 2. I assume I know what you mean by charcoal fuel, but what do you mean
> by charcoal debris?

After cooking with the charcoal wood, there is a mix of ash and sometimes
chunkier incompletely burned bits (depending on the efficiency of the stove)

>
> 3. What precision do you need for these quantities? (wood->char and
> energy content of different woods)

To begin with I was hoping for at least a rough rule of thumb such as
10 kilograms of freshly cut oak limbs -> Xk of wood dried for one year ->Yk
turned into charcoal fuel ->Zcharcoal debris/ashes

Sort of like the rule of thumb that people need a minimum of 2k of firewood
per day for cooking .

And would welcome scientific precision from carefully measured experiments
as well.

Sharon
gordonse at one.net




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