[Stoves] Billion Stoves Program

[Richard Stanley]

David, Kirt.
Its not that we need to communicate TO them. We need to engage them  
in communication their design issues with us at least ,....BEFORE we  
finalise THEIR designs FOR them.

It seems almost impossible to get thiws point across: Namely that  
these, the fellow citisens of our planet have thoughts and concerns  
and 	and capacity and experience which is just as valid if not  
moreso, than our own. The problem is to get out and understand what  
they are saying and to include them AT THE OUTSET of design and  
development.
Perhaps they need to communicate this TO us, eh ?
R Stanley

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On Mar 8, 2007, at 07:40, David G. LeVine wrote:

> At 07:46 AM 3/8/2007, you wrote:
>> If we are to persuade rural women, we need to communicate  
>> effectively to them:
>
> Absolutely.
>
>> Kirk R. Smith, East-West Center, Honolulu, Hawaii wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> If their cookstove does the job of cooking and the wood is  
>> consumed in the
>> stove as it should be, and if their life experience is that  
>> burning wood
>> inevitably results in smoke and ashes what could they find  
>> possibly find
>> wrong with their current stoves. If they see nothing wrong, how  
>> could  it
>> become necessary for them to change what they have been using for  
>> decades or
>> generations.
>
> But they can understand that if they spend less
> time gathering fuel, they have more time to do
> other things.  Give one stove to someone visible
> and have her tell people "I spend an hour less a
> day gathering fuel and cooking" and the others
> will listen.  Enlightened self-interest wins
> again.  Let her have enough time freed so she can
> be seen to relax and she will be the envy of others, which can be  
> good or bad.
>
> What would happen if a stove made from discarded
> tin cans were given to one woman in the village
> and the method of building it was offered to
> others in comic form, then a stainless one was
> offered for a price with a small number given
> away?  Well, I bet the tin can stoves (with their
> shorter lives) would be common and the stainless
> ones would become something desired by most
> people who started out on three rocks.  Remember
> that claims the people can't see don't affect them, claims they can  
> verify do.
>
>> Greenhouse gasses  how could they or most ordinary people ever  
>> relate to
>> that? What is a greenhouse? What is a gas? If the gasses go up  
>> into the sky
>> and disappears  its gone for good  no problem.
>> The point of this post is that the target user must be taken much  
>> more
>> seriously into consideration. The billion clean stoves idea is a  
>> good one;
>> hopefully this post will give additional insights on the reasons for
>> possible resistance to change among target users of improved or clean
>> stoves.
>
> They won't and can't afford to care about this
> kind of issue:  Their lives are at stake.  Unless
> they survive to bring up their children, there is
> no way for their children to survive.  If they
> don't make it until tomorrow, their children won't be around to  
> worry about.
>
>
> David G. LeVine
> Nashua, NH  03060
>
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