[Stoves] Billion Stoves Program

[Dean Still]

Dear Paul,

I think that, to be worth the effort, a billion stoves should reduce 1.)Fuel
use 2.)Carbon monoxide, Particulate Matter and 3.)Global warming potential
by at least one third to one half compared to an unimproved stove (or
something like that...)To do that the improved stove has to replace the old.

Best,

Dean

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Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 10:32 PM
To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves; Kevin Chisholm
Cc: Discussion at epud.net; cooking stoves
Subject: Re: [Stoves] Billion Stoves Program (Karin Troncoso)

Kevin, Crispin, and all.

I like it simply as a "Billion Stoves".  Almost every additional word is
only
relative, and adds to the complexity.  How clean is clean?  And what 
about fuel
efficiency, and low cost and everything else.  "A Billion Clean, Inexpensive
Efficient Stoves" project would be the goal, but not the name.

I think Tom Reed said it right the first time.  A billion stoves are 
needed, and
they should be better than what the people currently have.  Even 
counting all of
the stoves that are an improvement but are not really great stoves or the
best
possible stoves, we are still a long way from the billion mark.  Any 
"improved"
cookstove that gets accepted by the cook represents some combination of the
price, marketing, access to stove dissemination, etc that influence what a
person even has as options for choice.

Paul

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Quoting Kevin Chisholm <kchisholm at ca.inter.net>:

> Dear Crispin
>
> What would you think about "A Billion Clean Stoves"?
>
> That deals with your relevant comments about "cook stove", and it also
> incorporates Cornelio's very important observations about "clean".
>
> What woman, in the entire world, would object to having a clean stove?
>
> Most "improved stoves" are better than a three stone fire, so that
> phrase doesn't really tell very much. However, "clean" is a powerful
> descriptor that sets a "clean stove" apart from most existing stoves
> that should be upgraded.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Kevin
>
> Crispin Pemberton-Pigott wrote:
>> Dear Tom
>>
>> I asked for various understandings.  The identical word appears in
Afrikaans
>> (kookstoov, pronounced koo-uk stoo-uf) so for a very limited number of
>> people it would be understood immediately.  All others agree that in
English
>> cooking stove is the immediately understood version.
>>
>> In German the 'koch herd' is very similar to the American cookstove.
Maybe
>> they are related.
>>
>> I don't have strong bias on this, it just should be something people
>> understand.  Is there perhaps any need at all to mention cooking?  Around
>> here people are not really using stoves for much else.  Yes they use them
>> for space heating, but there is no differentiation between a 'heating
stove'
>> and a 'cooking stove'.  They are just stoves.
>>
>> Again to the German, a 'herd' (pronounced herrt') is always for cooking.
>> Even in Afrikaans, a stoov is for cooking, even if it sometimes used for
>> entertainment and heating.
>>
>> I fell that 'improved stove' might carry more information in only two
words.
>>
>> Regards
>> Crispin
>>
>>
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