[Stoves] Baking with alcohol stove

[Paul S. Anderson]

Dear Cynthia,

I accept your offer of doing experimental cooking on the alcohol stove, 
the Lily
stove.  The white Lily flower is a symbol of purity and is an appropriate name
for a very clean burning alcohol stove.

The stove is very inexpensive to make, but the alcohol is expensive in 
the USA. (unless you have your own still, which can be legal if you 
abide by the strict
rules in America.)  A gallon of denatured alcohol is about US$9 or 10 in a
hardware store.  A gallon of E-85 fuel is only about $2.50 (but do not use it
because the gasoline added makes it a bad cooking fuel, but it shows how
inexpensive alcohol COULD be.  In bulk, the price should be MUCH MUCH 
less.  In
Ethiopia a liter is less than US 25 cents (or less than a dollar per gallon).

When I return from PCIA in India, let's continue this contact.  Any 
chance that
you could come to central Illinois for a day or two?  I could show you how to
make everything as well as give the insights I have about cooking with 
the Lily
burner and Lily stove.

Have you seen the powerpoint presentation about the Lily stove at:
http://www.vrac.iastate.edu/ethos/files/ethos2007/Sat_AM/Session_1/Anderson%20alcohol%20stoves%202007-01-26.ppt

(Smile:  We can keep our meeting times and places off of the public 
listserves. Actually, I appreciate your words of caution.  Safety is an 
issue.  But I feel
that the risk of being a target because on a Listserv message of time 
and place
is quite low, and that the advantages are substantial if we have possible
contacts with people in Bangalore or elsewhere.  But I travel a lot, 
and I have
many friends who would not even consider going some of the places I 
have been. One such place is Bolivia where I have visited David 
Whitfield three times and
seen disruptions and demonstrations in the streets on each trip.  Bad things
can happen, so I try to be careful.)

I do not know anything about wood vinegar.  I hope others will give the 
info you
need.

Looking forward to meeting you and working with you on the alcohol 
stove usage.

By the way, today I learned much about how to sustain a "simmer-type" 
flame in a
Lily alcohol burner.  Experience and close observation are the best teachers,
especially if nobody else is around who has any knowledge or experience of the
topic.

Paul
-- 
Paul S. Anderson, Ph.D., Geography professor - Emeritus
Telephone:  USA-309-452-7072 (residence and office)
Internet site:  www.ilstu.edu/~psanders
For my gasifier stoves info, go to:
http://bioenergylists.org/contributors#Paul_Anderson

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> On 3/14/07, Cynthia Durham <stevecindydurham at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Professor Anderson:
>>
>>   I read with much interest your experience with the alcohol stove.  I
>> thought I might volunteer myself to assist with any other cooking
>> experiments that you might wish to employ.
>>
>>   I live very close to the land and am experience in cooking with wood and
>> making do without electricity.  In fact, the first two years that we live
>> out here we went without electricity or running water.  Most Americans today
>> have never had that experience.  I can identify with people overseas and in
>> South and Central America that live close to their animals and without basic
>> utilities.  I can also tell you from a practical point of view if these
>> experiments in stoves will work or not.  Until you have had a large wood
>> grill for your primary cooking stove for years you cannot really relate to
>> the women in these villages and what they must overcome just to feed their
>> families.
>>
>>   On another note, I would like to know if I can obtain some of this wood
>> vinegar that has been being talked about lately.   It sounds like a very
>> interesting product, particularly relating to livestock(hogs).
>>
>>   I hope that I can be of some use to your projects.  I read these emails
>> with great curiosity and interest, and the dialog give me great hope for the
>> world.
>>
>>   Sincerely,
>>
>>   Cynthia L. Durham (Cindy)
>>   28 Dawson Lane
>>   Gordonsville, TN  38563
>>   615-423-1316
>>
>> "Paul S. Anderson" <psanders at ilstu.edu> wrote:
>>   Stovers,
>>
>>

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