[Stoves] Secondary combustion technology in Sedore?

[Dick Gallien]

> Dear all.
>
> I have just recently become a subscriber to this list so I have just
> followed the discussion for a short while. Please excuse my ignorance but
> here in Norway we have been using stoves with secondary combustion for 
> quite
> a while. In fact nothing else is allowed to be installed in a house. These
> wood/pellet/briquette stoves has an efficiency close to 90% and emits very
> little else than CO2 and H2O.
>
> Has this kind of a stove been a topic of your discussion?
>
> With kind regards
> Per-Einar Rosenhave, Associate Professor
> Vestfold University College, Faculty of Maritime Education
> Norway

Survival stoves?
l. Understandably, most posts are about the lives and environment that are 
being destroyed in third world countries, mainly because of poor cooking 
stoves.

2.  We, with our leaders who claim, "The American way of life is 
non-negotiable"--The American, egotistical, arragant, wasteful way of life, 
are racing toward the day when our survival could also depend on clean 
heating and cooking wood stoves.

The use of corn and pellet stoves is increasing in this area--heating 
stoves, as essentials of survival, are slowly reentering.the masses psyche. 
However, the cost of wood pellets and corn are on the move.  It is almost 
amussing to see those, especially  l,000 plus miles from the mid-west corn 
belt, depending on corn stoves, when they pay to dump brush and blocked wood 
at a compost site, such as I have.  Over 90% of brush, stumps and downed 
trees in Mn. are torched (completely wasted). Our city compost site, should 
be called a burn site, which is why I've had a "community service" compost 
site, open every day, from dawn until dark, operating on an honor system, 
people who aren't accustomed to being treated honorably.

It is evidently so expensive to have a new wood stove EPA approved, that it 
discourages innovation. Many insurance companies will not cover a home, if a 
wood burner is installed.  It will be interesting to see what happens, when 
those in the northern part of this country, are forced into a survival mode.


When I bought these 175 acres, 51years ago, most small farm neighbors heated 
and cooked with wood.  They were as socially eager to get off of wood as to 
abandon the outhouse, especially since air tight and secondary combustion 
were unheard of.  The Scandinavians seem so far ahead. We have/had so much 
beautiful soil and wood everywhere.  We'll be a healthier, more contented 
nation, when avoiding starvation, replaces avoiding boredom, as our national 
pastime.

This URL is my wife's first attempt and the "old goat" tinkering with the 
Sedore, is looking for suggestions on the ideal proportion of primary to 
secondary air.
A little rough and late in the season, but it was -5F last night, 3/8/08, in 
what we call the banana belt of Mn.. Hope this gives some idea of how Sedore 
works. I'm obviously not selling them, but she is sturdily built and puts 
out a lot of heat. I've been heating only with wood for 50 years, using many 
stoves, furnaces and outdoor wood boilers, always stuffing things in a side 
door, so really appreciate having gravity on my side and being able to dump 
or pour anything in her. I tried wvo in my outdoor wood boiler and it gummed 
up the ash auger. I have a straight 19' stack, the 12' going through and 
above the roof is Metalbestos. The small amount of creosote started when 
burning dry wood, before I experimented with green chips. I make one pass a 
yr. through the stack on a large Quadrafire stove and get just a little 
creosote. When the lid is left open, after filling, the roaring looks like a 
white blueish blow torch, in the photo, with the ash door open .5". When the 
lid is closed the roar stops immediately, as the down draft is cut off, 
forcing the stack to pull from the four 3/4" pipes that enter 6" above the 
base, across the 18" burn chamber, through the coals and under the caste 
baffle, into the secondary burn chamber. I don't see any flame from the 3/8" 
holes, every inch on the 3/4" secondary burn pipe I put in. Should I have 4 
to 5 times more secondary air than primary?

When picking up foodwaste at the University and Hospital, I also get their 
wvo, so have over 2,000 gal. and must get serious about finding a meaningful 
use for it. I have two 60 gal cone tanks, which are ideal for settling out 
the water and crud.

Would appreciate any questions or suggestions on how to improve the sec. 
combustion.

tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb83h6kts7o
Thanks for listening,  Dick

Dick Gallien
22501 East Burns Valley Road
Winona MN 55987
dickgallien at msn.com [507]454-3126
www.thewinonafarm.com

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