[Stoves] Binder for those who do not have

Roger Samson rsamson at reap-canada.com
Tue Mar 25 09:50:54 CDT 2008


Tom 

Glad to see you working on this cement mixer concept being the dean of
densification (Tom's first work on pelleting was done in ~1978). After
seeing jeff's cement mixer in action on retted switchgrass using stones to
pulp the fibre I thought it has big potential for the developing world. 

I would like to see somebody try partial retting of grass or chopping it
along with use of cassava as a binder and then pulp the lot with stones in a
cement mixer. In the Philippines they have done considerable work on cassava
as a binder. Nobody has tried integrating these technologies and I think it
could work nicely. 


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-----Original Message-----
From: stoves-bounces at listserv.repp.org
[mailto:stoves-bounces at listserv.repp.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Reed
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:01 AM
To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves
Subject: Re: [Stoves] Binder for those who do not have

Jeff, Michael, All:

I see starch mentioned most often, and I presume breadfruit sap is rich 
in starch.  Algae sounds interesting and has long cellulose fibers.   We 
need an armada of binders for different part os the world. 

I am about to try my cement mixer to fireball experiment when I get 
enough charcoal dust together.  I'll fill it half full with chardust, 
then slowly spray in binder as it rotates.  I expect it to make 1 to1.5 
inch "fireballs, according to John Tatom's description of his process.  
I believe that it is useful for the char-dust to be as dry as possible, 
so that each particle absorbs water out of the binder and becomes sticky 
on the surface. 

Onward,

TOM REED

Jeff Davis wrote:
> Algae.
>
> Jeff
>
>   
>> I have thought over and over again what could I try as a binder.
>> About the stickest thing here is breadfruit tree sap.
>>
>> Michael N Trevor
>> Enemanit
>> Marshall Islands
>>     
>
>
>   
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