[Stoves] Binder for those who do not have

[frank]

Tom, All,

My family back East is now busy tapping trees for the sap to boil down 
to make a sticky syrup. I think a lot of vegetation has lipids, resins 
hot water soluble carbohydrates and hemicellulose in them that we can 
use if we can extract from the inside and then concentrate and coat on 
the outside. Berries and seeds, nuts, carrageen, pine trees, humic acid, 
etc.

Perhaps if we had an extraction procedure that would reflex for a few 
hours then distill and collect any solvent used (for the next batch) 
while it concentrates the glue that can be then coated on the larger 
woody small fuel biomass to stick it all together?  Hot water will 
extract the polysaccarides, dilute acid the heim-cellulose, alkali the 
humic acids, alcohol the resins, ether solvents the fats/oils/ waxes etc.

I am also thinking if the fuel cells were made differently than  
pressing into a cylinder or briquettes.  Perhaps  pressed from the 
side.  Like taking a section of stove pipe and unhook it. Paint the 
inside of the pipe with glue and fill with small fuel. Then overlap the 
pipe and twist to make smaller and smaller so the fuel is pressed more 
on the outside edge (with the glue) inwards. Tight on the outside and 
less on the inside. That will save a lot of glue and the burn will be 
more like the fuel sticks Richard makes with the hole in the center.  
Not sure what equipment could be used to make such a thing that would 
provide the pressure needed.

Glad to run some tests on your fireballs when you get some made if you 
think the info will help.

Regards

Frank




Thomas Reed wrote:

>Jeff, Michael, All:
>
>I see starch mentioned most often, and I presume breadfruit sap is rich 
>in starch.  Algae sounds interesting and has long cellulose fibers.   We 
>need an armada of binders for different part os the world. 
>
>I am about to try my cement mixer to fireball experiment when I get 
>enough charcoal dust together.  I'll fill it half full with chardust, 
>then slowly spray in binder as it rotates.  I expect it to make 1 to1.5 
>inch "fireballs, according to John Tatom's description of his process.  
>I believe that it is useful for the char-dust to be as dry as possible, 
>so that each particle absorbs water out of the binder and becomes sticky 
>on the surface. 
>
>Onward,
>
>TOM REED
>
>Jeff Davis wrote:
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>>Algae.
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>>Jeff
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>>>I have thought over and over again what could I try as a binder.
>>>About the stickest thing here is breadfruit tree sap.
>>>
>>>Michael N Trevor
>>>Enemanit
>>>Marshall Islands
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