[Strawbale] corner detail problem

[Denise Ohio]

Andrew,

I was wondering if it would make any sense at all to set the columns three 
feet back from the corner along each wall.

Basically, keep the columns in the center of the bale wall, but don't have 
any columns at the corners at all. Instead, move a corner column along one 
wall and add a column that's placed three feet down the other wall.

You'll still be cutting custom bales, but it would be easier than trying to 
work around a corner column. And yes, it means you're placing 8 columns 
instead of four (2 at each corner), but structurally, it would be sound and 
practically, it may be easier. I think.

Of course I could be completely missing the point. Either way, best of luck 
with it.

ohio



>Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 08:36:13 +1000
>From: Andrew Webb <design at thegreenwebb.com>
>Subject: Re: [Strawbale] corner detail problem
>To: Strawbale at listserv.repp.org
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>Rob Tom wrote:
> > I think that the simplest and probably most effective solution would
> > be to extend the joists another ~190mm or so to place the columns at
> > the inside face of the bales. The additional cantilever shouldn't be a
> > challenge to deal with and the additional interior space would
> > probably be appreciated by the homeowner.
>My concern with this is that it adds that much extra floor structure,
>flooring, ceiling, roof structure,etc. so cost go up more than the cost
>of futzing around with the corner details; it's a simple rectangular
>house so just 4 problem corners.  If I moved the walls to the outside on
>one side and the inside on the other, the floor area remains the same
>but the roof carpentry is complicated and the appearance would suffer.
>
>So far on the list I've had one vote for biscuits and mesh, one for
>offsetting columns, one for moving walls and one that would support
>either of the last two options.  I agree that the position of the column
>relative to the bales needs to change.  I think offsetting the upper and
>lower columns is simplest so long as the engineer doesn't want to add in
>some expensive steel beams to compensate, as some are apt to do (this is
>his first SB building).
>
>Thanks all for your thoughts on this.  I now have some direction to
>discuss with the others.
>
>All the best,
>Andrew