[Strawbale] windowsill waterproofing etc.
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Tue Apr 10 21:23:22 CDT 2007
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 14:53:38 -0400
From: Frank Tettemer <frankt at webhart.net>
Subject: Re: [Strawbale] Jeff's recessed windows
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Hi all, and especially Kathy,
In response to your query to Jeff, about materials,
I'm offering this to the list, (as a discussion element.)
I have a few favourite materials for building my under-window-sill
drainage-pans:
(First, I've gotta say, that in the aim of conservation, each unique
building will have some sort of waterproof materials, already on site,
having been specified for other building components. So, as an act of
non-consumerism,
I use any one of these *three* material choices.)
First favourite: Usually, in our area, where covered-seam steel roofing
is a frequent and practical choice, there is bound to be some soft steel
or galvalume or aluminum rolls stock ordered, to be used for the roof
flashing, valleys, etc. I buy enough extra to do all the windows,
(buy-a-full-roll,-and-save attitude). And likewise, I add on extra tar
paper, felt paper, or tyvek that is being used, elsewhere in the building.
The pan gets built with thin 1/2" strips of cedar shingles, used as fill
between the bottom of the window sill, and the top surface of the metal
pan. This achieves the goal of maintaining a sloping outward grade to
the pan, assuring flow in the right direction. It also helps stuff the
space with drain-able material, and cuts down on wind infiltration. On
the inner face of the window, inside the house, the pan is bent upward,
vertical, about a half inch, and siliconed and stapled to the inside
face of the window frame. This half inch of aluminum is later hidden by
the installation of an interior wooden trim piece, or, a wooden plant
sill. Like wise, the metal is corner-folded, and bent upwards and
stapled on the left and right sides of the window. This forms a flat,
sloping pan with three vertical sides.
The final act of drainage, is to use some building-supply drip edge, or
shingle starter, or other factory-folded readily available aluminum trim
pieces. This goes under both the window pan, and the external sill, (if
used), and extends just a bit further outside of every component, to
cause the drips to miss the plaster immediately beneath the sill area.
The tarpaper or felt or tyvek mentioned in the above ingredients, gets
placed above the bale, but below the metal window pan. It acts as a
second-layer defense. This is an attempt to also drain away any
condensation that might occur during extremely cold weather. The idea
here, is
that if there is moisture laden warm air migrating through the bale wall
assembly, then the air could, (and likely would), condense on the under
side of the metal pan. So the tarpaper takes this wear-and-tear,
instead of wetting the bales.
Second and Third favourites:
2.) under ground foundation material, (such as Blueskin ... a rubber
product).
3.) or an under-tile-floor-shower membrane, (such as the Schluder
system).
I'd use them in the same assembly system, as described above for the
aluminum pans.
These two materials have the advantage of offering much less heat
transfer.
So they don't act so much like a thermal bridge, as the aluminum
material does.
To help promote discussion, I invite others to poke holes (figuratively)
in the above methods.
There's enough experience here on this list, to come up with some
solutions or methods, without holes.
I would imagine that there would be different approaches,
reflecting the different types of climatic environments.
And different types of humour.
Frank Tettemer
www.livingsol.com
Frank (and everyone): What you said makes lots of sense. If a tar paper
were used on top the straw and wood window buck, then the shower pan rubber
material on top of that, it seems to me that it would make it not only
waterproof, but also, it seems like it would prevent condensation under the tar paper.
Also some type of caulking around everything after the window is installed
should protect it further. What do you all think? Since we'll be using lime
plaster, the walls will be able to breathe, so we shouldn't have too much to
worry about as far as moisture is concerned, as long as we don't have any
leaks around the windowsills and other vulnerable places. This is all still
'miles down the road', as we're still just working with the cement blocks, and
are having to wait for warmer weather so the concrete doesn't crack while
curing.
It seems the more I learn about SB building, the more questions I have. My
wheels in my head are turning...hear them squeak?
- Kathy
p.s. Frank, I looked at your website, (awesome!) ...and now I have even
more questions! (more to come...)
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