[Strawbale] Free energy

activism98201 at verizon.net activism98201 at verizon.net
Thu Dec 6 00:43:02 EST 2007


Robert Tom wrote:

"things that shouldn't be the exclusive privilege of the First Worlder minority simply because they got around to consuming/depleting the majority of the  
Earth's resources first."

Yes, this all sounds proper and all, and believe me, I fully understand that us first-worlders' standard of living is way over-inflated and will decline, but my (poorly constructed/developer) argument was really more aimed at understanding ramifications of things that we foist upon all those "poor" people.  After all, the Green Revolution was also supposed to do wonders for the third-worlders; yes, for a short time, but in the long-run it'll end up being one of the biggest tragedies that humankind ever unleashed upon itself.

And perhaps my core point is that we've got to stop thinking that we're "solving" the "problems" of others.  We could do a lot of people a bigger favor by getting out of their lives.  Humanitarian disaster relief is an exception.


“The chief cause of problems is solutions.” - Eric Sevareid


-Mark Nagel
Everett, WA


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From: Robert Tom <ArchiLogic at yahoo.ca>

On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:36:48 -0500, <activism98201 at verizon.net> wrote:

> I find these types of claims to be troubling.
>
> And what do we expect to happen when these folks have more light?


I would expect that Third World people who get more light will suffer from  
fewer vision-related problems as a result of poor lighting, perhaps be  
able to do things like read books in the evenings, walk around at night  
with less risk of tripping over or bumping into things etc. ... things  
that shouldn't be the exclusive privilege of the First Worlder minority  
simply because they got around to consuming/depleting the majority of the  
Earth's resources first.

But rather than using cell phone chargers that probably need to plug into  
something in order to work, perhaps a more appropriate solution for Third  
World locales (ie where wall plugs may not be all that plentiful) might be  
the hand-cranked dynamo charger LED lamps like those that are sold by Lee  
Valley Tools.   
http://www.leevalley.com/garden/page.aspx?c=1&p=58348&cat=2,40731


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Rob Tom
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