Dear All,
The intolerance shown on this site sad. SB people ( I thought anyway) are
likely to be open-minded. It appears not and that the same strains of
bigotry creep in.
It must be cold and miserable up in your rarified climate that you have time
to pontificate like this. Get on with the real stuff.
Johann Rissik
P.O. Box 22
Prince Albert 6930
Tel/Fax 023-541 1945
Mobile: 082 853 7622
Skype: stonehealer
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1. Re: [ADMIN] Stop discussion of Global warming (Alan Mason)
2. Re: [ADMIN] Stop discussion of Global warming (Chris Green)
3. Where to take SB OT discussions (was Re: [ADMIN] Stop
discussion of Global warming) (Rob Tom)
4. Re: Where to take SB OT discussions (was Re: [ADMIN] Stop
discussion of Global warming) (Chris Green)
5. Re: [ADMIN] Stop discussion of Global warming (Mike Weaver)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 20:25:48 -0800
From: "Alan Mason" <strawbaleguy at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Strawbale] [ADMIN] Stop discussion of Global warming
To: <strawbale at listserv.repp.org>, "Strawbale Owner"
<strawbale-owner at listserv.repp.org>
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Dear Administrator,
I have been on other email lists where administrators have restricted
discussions to totally "on topic" subjects, even when the "off topic"
subjects have addressed the larger context of the list. Some of those lists
are not longer in existance, others should be.
Sustainable building, strawbale or otherwise, exists, in part, in the
context of what human civilization is or may be doing to the planet. IMNSHO,
and from experience, if this, or any other, list can't tolerate discussions
that address the larger context the list exists in, especially when those
discussions remain civil and don't interrupt into flame-wars, then the list
has no real vitality or relevance, and is in danger of becoming boring and
a waste of bandwidth. There is only so much you can say about a given
limited topic. As David (Talking Heads) Byrne wrote, "Say something once,
why say it again?"
And, finally, where should we take the discussion? Is the administrator
willing to do us the courtesy of creating a Strawbale OT (off-topic) list
for those of us who don't want to color inside the lines?
@
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To: <strawbale at listserv.repp.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 8:27 PM
Subject: [Strawbale] [ADMIN] Stop discussion of Global warming
> Stop this discussion. It is off topic and not appropriate to this
> list. Take the discussions off list or to some list where it belongs.
>
> dion
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 20:55:33 -0800
From: Chris Green <pojeros at telus.net>
Subject: Re: [Strawbale] [ADMIN] Stop discussion of Global warming
To: Strawbale at listserv.repp.org
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Alan Mason wrote:
> And, finally, where should we take the discussion? Is the administrator
> willing to do us the courtesy of creating a Strawbale OT (off-topic) list
> for those of us who don't want to color inside the lines?
>
A large part of the original intention behind the creation of
Strawbale's sister list, SB-r-us at Yahoo Groups, was to provide a place
where the more free wheeling discussions could indeed be carried on,
leaving Strawbale at REPP as an On Topic zone.
The URL is:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SB-r-us/
Cheers,
Chris Green.
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 01:45:48 -0500
From: "Rob Tom" <ArchiLogic at yahoo.ca>
Subject: [Strawbale] Where to take SB OT discussions (was Re: [ADMIN]
Stop discussion of Global warming)
To: Strawbale at listserv.repp.org
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On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 23:55:33 -0500, Chris Green <pojeros at telus.net> wrote:
> Alan Mason wrote:
>> Is the administrator willing to do us the courtesy of creating a
>> Strawbale OT (off-topic) list for those of us who don't want to color
>> inside the lines?
>>
> A large part of the original intention behind the creation of
> Strawbale's sister list, SB-r-us at Yahoo Groups, was to provide a place
> where the more free wheeling discussions could indeed be carried on,
> leaving Strawbale at REPP as an On Topic zone.
Whoa! there Nelly.
The membership of the "SB-r-Us" list may be a *little* more tolerant of OT
threads to a certain point but it's the "SB_Kitchen-sink" list that was
created as a place where OT discussions
could take place.
From the group description heading at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SB_Kitchen-sink/
"Off-topic discussions that begin on one of the SB Lists
and shows no sign of dying so needs a temporary home until
it runs out of steam.
No holds barred, but suggest that some level of civility be
maintained and everyone shake hands and kiss and make up at the end."
In the past on the SB-r-us list it has been suggested that once an OT
thread reaches 6 postings on the subject, that participants in the thread
have the courtesy to self-regulate themselves and say "Okay, let's take
this to the SB_Kitchen-sink List and continue our discussion there".
Unless Marcus Hardwick has abdicated while I wasn't looking, he's the
ListMomma (or List plumber, depending upon your PoV.)
As Marcus once remarked, it's an underutilised resource and I think that
it'd be interesting to see this subject of "Global Warming" hashed out
there.
=== * ===
Rob Tom
Kanata, Ontario, Canada
<A r c h i L o g i c at c h a f f y a h o o dot c a >
winnow the chaff from my edress in your reply
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 23:34:26 -0800
From: Chris Green <pojeros at telus.net>
Subject: Re: [Strawbale] Where to take SB OT discussions (was Re:
[ADMIN] Stop discussion of Global warming)
To: Strawbale at listserv.repp.org
Message-ID: <45CD7582.5070804 at telus.net>
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Rob Tom wrote:
> Whoa! there Nelly.
> The membership of the "SB-r-Us" list may be a *little* more tolerant of OT
> threads to a certain point but it's the "SB_Kitchen-sink" list that was
> created as a place where OT discussions
> could take place.
>
Okay, I stand corrected.
Cheers,
Chris Green.
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 09:52:55 -0500
From: Mike Weaver <mweaver at misteam.net>
Subject: Re: [Strawbale] [ADMIN] Stop discussion of Global warming
To: Alan Mason <strawbaleguy at earthlink.net>
Cc: strawbale at listserv.repp.org, Strawbale Owner
<strawbale-owner at listserv.repp.org>
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How many people want a Global Warming list?
Please email me off list.
Mike Weaver, REOO list serv admin.
Alan Mason wrote:
>Dear Administrator,
>
>I have been on other email lists where administrators have restricted
>discussions to totally "on topic" subjects, even when the "off topic"
>subjects have addressed the larger context of the list. Some of those lists
>are not longer in existance, others should be.
>
>Sustainable building, strawbale or otherwise, exists, in part, in the
>context of what human civilization is or may be doing to the planet.
IMNSHO,
>and from experience, if this, or any other, list can't tolerate
discussions
>that address the larger context the list exists in, especially when those
>discussions remain civil and don't interrupt into flame-wars, then the
list
>has no real vitality or relevance, and is in danger of becoming boring and
>a waste of bandwidth. There is only so much you can say about a given
>limited topic. As David (Talking Heads) Byrne wrote, "Say something once,
>why say it again?"
>
>And, finally, where should we take the discussion? Is the administrator
>willing to do us the courtesy of creating a Strawbale OT (off-topic) list
>for those of us who don't want to color inside the lines?
>
>@
>
>
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>To: <strawbale at listserv.repp.org>
>Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 8:27 PM
>Subject: [Strawbale] [ADMIN] Stop discussion of Global warming
>
>
>
>
>>Stop this discussion. It is off topic and not appropriate to this
>>list. Take the discussions off list or to some list where it belongs.
>>
>>dion
>>
>>Dion Hollenbeck
>>Strawbale List Sitter
>>strawbale-owner at listserv.repp.org
>>
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