[Strawbale] RE re re Free music : Finale

[Mark Piepkorn]

         I thought I had taken this thread 
offlist with my previous reply, but I see that I didn't. Oops.


At 03:53 PM 6/8/2007, Michael K. lough wrote:
>Lowest common denominator you say 
? Well eugenics aside...

         *laughing*... Feel free to reach r-e-a-l-l-y far.


>It might be important to recognise that this 
>list is partly devoted to the idea that straw 
>bale buildings are what we should be building 
>because they are superior to any other kind of 
>energy efficient building technique but only 
>really smart* people can do this well after a long learning process?

         Straw bale building is one sort of 
building that can make sense and perform well. 
And IMO it's easier to screw them up than build 
them well, even for smart people. There is a 
learning curve. For some it's steeper and longer 
than for others. Doesn't mean we're on a list full of dummies, though.

         To me, your warning - though given in 
good spirit - was sort of like pointing out that 
if a person wants fresh air to come in through 
the window, they have to open it - and will have 
to shut it again later if they don't want rain to 
come in. To me, it seemed just that obvious. (And 
if it wasn't obvious to a given individual, they 
would have been confronted with the Terms and 
Conditions document on the service's website, 
would have had to fill in the forms, and would 
have been required to give their credit card 
number before they could download anything. If 
they didn't figure out the system by that time, I 
don't think that any warning I might have included would have worked, either.)

         You felt that it wasn't obvious, 
however, and did what you felt moved by 
compassion to do. Then I remarked on it (when I 
really should have known better), and here we 
are. I subsequently had fun discussing our 
individual drivers, but now that it seems to be 
degenerating into petty semantics and insulting 
insinuation, I'm not inclined to play anymore.


>Everyone here has common sense


         Never claimed that. I believe that 
you're just trying to support a position now.


>Perhaps you are right though and the list has 
>nothing to learn about anything else.

         Had I said that, I would have been wrong.


>The assumption being is  that anyone on this 
>list would jump at 50 free music downloads if 
>they were told it would help in South Africa

         I didn't assume that - and am awed by 
how you managed to make that Evel Knievel leap.   :)


>>         Charity? No. Respect? Yes. And you're 
>> right, it's both praise and blame. I was hoping people would pick up on that.
>
>People
?? You sound like Wavy Gravy  now


         Wavy Gravy's a trip (pun intended, but 
not required). I don't get the 'people' 
reference, however. Does it have something to do 
with the Hog Farm? Yeah, Hugh Romney... there's a 
guy with some fun history. Too bad his lingering 
notoriety is so connected to the "Don't eat the 
brown acid" thing. He's done so much more good in the world.



Mark Piepkorn
www.potkettleblack.com

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s'pose they's a hundred men wants that job. S'pose them
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buy at leas' sompin for the kids. An' you got a hundred
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